“I was on a roll, and I haven’t been on a roll in a long time,” Siegel said, explaining that during the show he felt “like the old Matty on the air. And that’s when I got the call [from corporate management] and I just snapped. I just said, ‘I can’t be here anymore.’”
At issue were comments Siegel made while discussing Lovato’s announcement that the singer would be changing their pronouns. Siegel was making jokes at Lovato’s expense, and said his boss at iHeartMedia, which owns Kiss 108 FM, called him and told him to “stop talking about what I’ve been talking about.” Siegel’s comments drew criticism from a prominent transgender rights group and online observers as insensitive and harmful.
Siegel said that after Wednesday’s show, he talked to his wife “at length” who said “you’re not ending your career over bleeping Demi Lovato.” Siegel said he also spoke with the company and received “full-support” and “the freedom to say what I want.”
“So I’m here,” Siegel continued on Thursday.
He continued that what bothered him most amid the rush of headlines that followed Wednesday’s segment was that many thought it was part of a “radio stunt.”
“It was no radio stunt, if you were looking at my eyes when I wanted to quit,” Siegel said. “Some people thought it was a gag. It’s not a gag.”
Siegel went on to say said that if “we live in a world where you can’t say what you want, and I’m not talking about swearing, but in traditional radio boundaries, if I can’t say what I’m thinking I don’t want to do it any more.”
For financial reasons, however, he did not want to walk away from his career. “It’s their inheritance,” he said, referring to his children. “It’s a big move to quit. So there it is. I’m here.”
During Siegel’s rant on Wednesday, he said he was “going against the ‘woke thing.’” according to a recording of the segment uploaded to YouTube. “Against the Demi Lovatos of the world and all that kind of stuff.”
He continued: “it’s a joke, the whole binary thing. I don’t care with Demi Lovato does. But now we have to worry about ‘you might offend someone.’” In an interview with Boston.com Wednesday, Siegel echoed those sentiments, adding “we were having fun with it … it’s a comedy show, so I did it in the context of jokes.”
Siegel apparently faced similar messaging from the radio station prior to the November presidential election when he was criticizing Donald Trump.
“They pulled the plug on me and they said ‘you cannot talk about what you’re talking about,’” Siegel said. “If I’m left wing and I go anti-Trump, I get in trouble, and today I was anti-wokeness and I can’t do that.”
The radio station’s general manager Alan Chartrand said on Wednesday that Siegel “threatens [to quit] all the time in a joking kind of way. This isn’t the first time he’s threatened this would be the last show.”
Siegel’s comments prompted pushback from advocates for the LGBTQ community.
“Public understanding of what it means to be non-binary is growing and listeners expect better from the media and people with a platform,” Rodrigo Heng-Lehtinen, deputy executive director for the National Center for Transgender Equality, wrote in a statement to the Globe.
“When a prominent person such as Demi Lovato shares their story, it matters. It tells other non-binary folks that they are not alone. Lovato and other non-binary and trans people are worthy of respect. We are not jokes or punchlines. We’re your neighbors, your co-workers, friends and family members.”
Siegel launched the 6-10 a.m. show in 1981, and in January celebrated its 40th anniversary. The show also features Siegel’s longtime sidekicks Billy Costa and Lisa Donovan, and consistently ranks No. 1 among women in the 18-to-49 demographic.
Travis Andersen and Mark Shanahan of the Boston Globe staff and Kevin Slane of the Boston.com staff contributed to this report.
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